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  • Geeking out on the Fermi Paradox

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    George KG
    I'm in the 2nd book of the "Three Body Problem..." "Luo explains the dark forest hypothesis that underpinned his strategy, which he came to understand after reflecting on his conversation with Ye Wenjie: There is life everywhere in the galaxy, but since growth is constant and resources are finite, each galactic civilization is strongly incentivized to destroy any others upon discovery. The only defense against this is to remain unnoticed, thus explaining the Fermi paradox." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_forest_hypothesis The "dark forest" hypothesis presumes that any space-faring civilization would view any other intelligent life as an inevitable threat and thus destroy any nascent life that makes itself known. As a result, the electromagnetic spectrum would be relatively quiet, without evidence of any intelligent alien life.[9][10] A similar hypothesis, under the name "deadly probes", was described by astronomer and author David Brin in his 1983 summary of the arguments for and against the Fermi paradox.[11] The name of the hypothesis derives from Liu Cixin’s 2008 novel The Dark Forest,[12] as in a "dark forest" filled with "armed hunter(s) stalking through the trees like ghosts".[13][14] Since the intentions of any newly contacted civilisation can never be known with certainty, meaning that, if one is encountered, it is best to shoot first and ask questions later, in order to avoid the potential extinction of one’s own species. The novel provides a detailed investigation of Brin's concerns about alien contact.[2] Relationship to other proposed Fermi paradox solutions The Berserker hypothesis, also known as the deadly probes scenario, proposes self-reproducing machines seek to destroy organic life.[3]: 112  The name derives from short stories by Fred Saberhagen written in the 1960s. The dark forest hypothesis is distinct from the Berserker hypothesis in that under the former, many alien civilizations could still exist provided they keep silent. The former can be viewed as a special case of the latter, if the deadly probes are (e.g. due to resource scarcity) only sent to star systems that show signs of intelligent life.[9] Game theory The dark forest hypothesis is a special case of the "sequential and incomplete information game" in game theory.[15][10][16] In game theory, a "sequential and incomplete information game" is one in which all players act in sequence, one after the other, and none are aware of all available information.[17] In the case of this particular game, the only win condition is continued survival.[9] An additional constraint in the special case of the "dark forest" is the scarcity of vital resources.[10] The "dark forest" can be considered an extensive-form game with each "player" possessing the following possible actions: destroy another civilization known to the player; broadcast and alert other civilizations of one's existence; or do nothing.[15] Science fiction versions In addition to Fred Saberhagen's Berserker novels,[3]: 112  variations of these ideas have been used in other science fiction stories. These include Alistair Reynolds’ Redemption Ark series, Gregory Benford and Larry Niven in Starship, and Greg Bear in The Forge of God. In 1987, science fiction author Greg Bear explored this concept that he called a "vicious jungle" in his novel The Forge of God.[18] In The Forge of God, humanity is likened to a baby crying in a hostile forest: "There once was an infant lost in the woods, crying its heart out, wondering why no one answered, drawing down the wolves." One of the characters explains, "We've been sitting in our tree chirping like foolish birds for over a century now, wondering why no other birds answered. The galactic skies are full of hawks, that's why. Planetisms that don't know enough to keep quiet, get eaten."[4] The term "dark forest" was coined for the idea in 2008 by science fiction author Liu Cixin in his novel The Dark Forest.[19][2] In Liu Cixin's novel, the dark forest hypothesis is introduced by the character Ye Wenjie, while visiting her daughter's grave. She introduces three key axioms to a new field she describes as "cosmic sociology":[20][9] "Suppose a vast number of civilizations distributed throughout the universe, on the order of the number of observable stars. Lots and lots of them. Those civilizations make up the body of a cosmic society. Cosmic sociology is the study of the nature of this super-society."[20] Suppose that survival is the primary need of a civilization. Suppose that civilizations continuously expand over time, but the total matter in the universe remains constant. The only logical conclusion from the acceptance of these axioms, Ye says, is that any intelligent life in the universe will be pitted against all other life in the struggle for survival.[20][9]
  • Ride Me

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    CopperC
    250+ Boxwoods are finally big enough to trim, they are now 4 years old, they were planted only a few inches high. In a couple years the question will be, is this Smithfield or is this Versailles? I trimmed them all on Saturday, tired back for an old man. [image: 1714578791591-6dcb1a08-a28c-4b81-a169-5c7e36e6a917-image.png]
  • Sex is a biological fact.

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    RenaudaR
    I believe the celebrated biologist Richard Dawkins had been saying this for quite some time. Like J K Rowling, Dawkins is quite out of favour among the world’s progressives.
  • No Tipping

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    89th8
    Oops sorry, didn't realize how old the thread was. What's funny, @George-K , is when I was writing my reply I had the same thought of "if I place my order at a counter, I'm not tipping".
  • Banned From Sports

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    JollyJ
    Pushed by The Resident (or his staff).
  • Not Working

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  • The Formula 1 Doctor

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    JollyJ
    Good article. Kudos to the doc.
  • SB 7050

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  • More Refugees Coming

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    89th8
    Dumb question but how are they getting out of Gaza? Thought the borders were closed on all sides.
  • Trump prosecution may be fatally flawed.

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    George KG
    More from McCarthy: https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/04/braggs-prosecution-of-trump-violates-new-york-states-constitution/ Ihave argued that former president Donald Trump’s prosecution in the so-called hush-money case brought by Manhattan’s elected progressive Democratic district attorney Alvin Bragg is offensive in various ways. Bragg, an election denier, is trying to convict Trump of a crime that is not charged in the indictment — to wit, conspiracy to steal the 2016 election by suppressing negative information in violation of federal campaign law. This violates the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which requires a felony charge to be spelled out in an indictment whose criminal elements have been established by probable cause to the satisfaction of a grand jury. Here, the problem is not just that there is no indication the grand jury was presented with an election-theft conspiracy offense; there is no such conspiracy crime in New York penal law. As a state prosecutor, moreover, Bragg has no jurisdiction to enforce federal law — as to which Congress vested “exclusive” criminal- and civil-enforcement authority, respectively, in the Justice Department and the Federal Election Commission. Worse still is that Judge Juan Merchan is not just letting Bragg get away with this; he is consciously abetting the district attorney — thus adding heft to Trump’s claim that Merchan is deeply conflicted by political bias. Nevertheless, the violation of Trump’s rights is even more basic. Once one clears away the election-theft and federal-law underbrush, Trump is actually charged not with a conspiracy but with 34 substantive felony violations of a New York statute that makes it a crime to falsify business records with the fraudulent intent to conceal “another crime.” What other crime? The penal statute in question doesn’t say. That’s a fatal problem because New York State’s constitution mandates that a statute must spell out any statutory terms it is incorporating. Under Article III, §16, of the state constitution, incorporation by reference is not permitted.
  • Scotty sez...

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    JollyJ
    @jon-nyc said in Scotty sez...: Deflation FTW! Link to video
  • Powerwagon

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  • A little dab will do you...

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    LuFins DadL
    @Jolly said in A little dab will do you...: I've seen Mupirocin used for years as a preventative, by applying it to the first quarter inch or so of the nasal passages. And speaking of COVID ... I knew people who would gargle with an alcohol based mouthwash and use a swab with dilute H2O2 in the first inch or so of the nasal passages after arriving home from being out around other people. Wonder if there has been a study on that? I drank whiskey after being out around other people. Had nothing to do with COVID.
  • Actual conversation I had with an old customer today - (Politics related)

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    LuFins DadL
    @Axtremus said in Actual conversation I had with an old customer today - (Politics related): I have no intention to sell any house yet I get inundated by huge numbers of unsolicited calls/texts asking if I am interested in selling a house. Nay, "selling" a house is not a problem in this market; "buying" is. Those companies are not buying anywhere close to a fair value. Many communities are setting up rules preventing selling to these types of businesses.
  • Ivanhoe

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    RenaudaR
    To be honest I have never given it any thought until today. Even after reading article, I still have no opinion either way on the question.
  • Fani, you've got another problem...

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  • Acetaminophen & NICU

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    B
    There wasn’t IV Tylenol when I practiced. But respiratory depression remains real, as does the effect on MAP with morphine, ..mif they still give morphine now. Many more prems undergo surgery now .. they are lighter and younger too. The procedures are more complex and invasive. The IV route, esp. central, is preferable for all meds because tiny stomachs don’t absorb drugs predictably. As to what you, Ax, questioned, NICU & PICU nurses (those with experience, that is) are pretty astute picking up pain signals with neonates. Sometimes it’s vital signs, sometimes it’s posturing, cries or lack thereof, sweating, grimacing, facials, lots of stuff. Knowing the babe shift to shift, their changes in behaviour, knowing the parents too and how they see their babe hour to hour, lots of stuff.
  • This may be the greatest sport ever!

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    @Mik said in This may be the greatest sport ever!: Kind of reminds me of dog agility trials, but you put two Shelties in the area. Ha. I thought this too. Those kids are amazing. I wonder of the injuries incurred with this.
  • Biden prepares to lose

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    MikM
    We still haven't heard any resolution regarding Ohio and the other states.
  • Walmart Closes Health Centers, Telehealth Unit Over Rising Costs

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    JollyJ
    Not to mention, reimbursement knows no rhyme or reason. I can make more money drawing the blood for a glucose level, than I can for running the test. Give me an hour and I can have TG sticking patients with good veins.